Confronting Old Testament Controversies

Confronting Old Testament Controversies [PDF / Epub] ☉ Confronting Old Testament Controversies Author Tremper Longman III – For many people, skeptics and believers alike, the Old Testament is rife with controversial passages and events that make both belief and sharing our beliefs with others difficult Often our solutions For many people, skeptics Testament Controversies ePUB ✓ and believers alike, the Old Testament is rife with controversial passages and events that make both belief and sharing our beliefs with others difficult Often our solutions have tended toward the extremes ignore problem passages and pretend they don t matter or obsess Confronting Old MOBI :Ä over them and treat them as though they are the only thing that mattersNow with clarity of purpose and fidelity to the message and spirit of Scripture as a whole, Tremper Longman confronts pressing questions of concern to modern audiences, particularly young people in the church the creation Old Testament Controversies PDF/EPUB ë evolution debate God ordained violence the historicity of people, places, and events human sexualityPastors, leaders in the church, and thoughtful and troubled Christians in the pews will find here a well reasoned and faithful approach to dealing with the Old Testament passages so many find challenging or disconcerting.

Tremper Longman III PhD, Testament Controversies ePUB ✓ Yale University is the Robert H Gundry Professor of Biblical Studies at Westmont College in Santa Barbara, California Before coming to Westmont, he taught at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia for eighteen years He has authored or coauthored numerous books, including An Introduction Confronting Old MOBI :Ä to the Old Testament, How to Read Proverbs, and commentaries on Daniel,.

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  • Confronting Old Testament Controversies
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  • 03 September 2017
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10 thoughts on “Confronting Old Testament Controversies

  1. Joan says:

    Longman tackles four controversial issues in the Old Testament, evolution creation , history exodus , violence God s , and sexuality homosexuality He is clear that this is a book written for Christians, people who believe the Bible is the Word of God His focus is on how people within the evangelical church have reinterpreted texts to be culturally acceptable These are not issues of salvation, he says, but ones open to discussion He says his book is for a broad audience I found his review of some of the literature tedious Many of the authors I did not know, had not heard of their arguments, and was not really interested in having their views refuted I felt that part of the book was aimed at scholars, rather than laypeople With respect to creation and evolution, Longman firmly believes evolution is a proven science and interprets the creation account in such a way that allows for it He reminds readers of genre and uses that concept heavily I was surprised by his understanding of image of God and how it applies to humans He proposes humans in a broad sense and that not all humans are image bearers of God 1178 5874 He can even explain Paul s seemingly reference to a real Adam individual in Romans 5 Here s his understanding of image of God Here it is important to realize that the image of God is not a quality or an attribute of human beings but rather a status that comes with responsibilities 1178 5874 He consults extra biblical uses of image to conclude, At a certain point, then, when humans became capable of moral choice and were morally innocent, God conferred on them the status of being his representatives 1190 5874 Along with it came the responsibility of caring for the earth, etc He also presents a few other possibilities He is firm in saying it is important to understand what the Bible does teach is not undermined nor contradicted by the findings of modern biology 1209 5874 I was surprised at his comments about original sin but upon thought, they did make sense to me I appreciated his argument that the exodus has to be an historical event, considering other truths in the Bible hanging on that event I liked his comments on divine violence He confesses that he has a sense of unease when he thinks of children being killed in the conquest but notes that his unease does not make him reject the consistent account of God s actions 3453 5874 I appreciate that Longman says we cannot make God into an image we like only loving but must rather recognize the mystery of God s ways 3463 5874 I found his discussion on sexuality in the Bible compassionate yet holding true to what Christians have held for centuries.The issues Longman covered are controversial There has been much discussion and many books written about them I found many of his ideas new and worthy of consideration I must admit that I skimmed over some of his critiques of other authors, especially those unfamiliar to me.Longman has included discussion questions on the topics so this book could be used in a group setting.I received a complimentary egalley of this book from the publisher My comments are an independent and honest review.

  2. Jim says:

    Written for the Christian Church as a whole and not the current culture, as Longman makes clear in the introduction, Confronting Old Testament Controversies is a well written and thoughtful study of four themes which both the Church and contemporary society have been and continue to wrestle with the creation account, the issue of sexuality, and historicity of Old Testament events, and the violent accounts of warfare that are contained within the Old Testament.This reviewer was both personally and pastorally challenged by this book But I found a better footing, if you will, to be able to discuss these issues with a wider audience in a manner that I think will be respectful, Biblical, and pastoral.I agreed with the author on some points and disagreed with him on other points But the way, Longman addresses these biblical theological controversies which have major implications in not just public policies and ethics, but in also our own private understandings of who we are created to be, is fair, kind, and open A tone that is a wise one to take.If you are looking for a book that will help you bolster your arguments and views, you won t find it here But if you are looking for a book that will help you better articulate your interpretation of the many Old Testament passages discussed in this book, then get it.An excellent book for theological study at all levels as well as for use in discussing the widely divergent interpretations on these issues, Confronting Old Testament Controversies is an excellent book to use.Report this adI gave this book a five star rating on Goodreads I received a copy of the book from the publisher, Baker Books as part of their bloggers program, in exchange for a review I was not required to write a positive review.

  3. Sophie T says:

    As someone who has been wanting to read non fiction as well as christian books, I was quite glad when I received this book from a Goodreads giveaway First, let me talk about how the book is written For the most part, I enjoyed it Though at times it was a bit strenuous The average everyday reader might not like it as much compared to a scholarly reader There are also numerous mentions of other scholars and authors, which can be a little confusing if you know nothing about these people However, I will say the author did a good job, for the most part , of explaining these other people s opinions on the subject at hand.Now what did I think of the topics I agreed for the most part with the author on 3 out of the 4 subjects Before I get into the individual topics, I want to take a moment to mention a few points that I appreciated Towards the beginning of the book Mr Longman explains that he wrote this book for Christians, and that anyone else who reads this book will have a much high chance of not agreeing with him or liking the book at all Another point made in the first chapter is that the Bible is confusing, and because of how different people interrupt things there are going to be disagreements But the core message of the Bible, as in Jesus coming to save us from our sins and give us the hope of eternal life, is made plain to see so that way everyone will be able to understand We may not all agree on the smaller issues that are discussed in the Bible, and that is okay What s important is that even though we have our own opinions, we need to keep an open mind and explore the opinions of others If we still don t agree, that s okay to, just don t be rude about it Now let s get into the first of our four main subjects the creation evolution debate Mr Longman identifies as an evolutionary creationist, and while I agree with a few of his points, such as that the Bible and science can go hand in hand, most of his opinions I don t agree with at all He states that Genesis is a historical book, written in figurative language, that we can t take literally I personally, believe that Genesis can be taken literally But that s me.In the next chapter he discuss History, and if such events like the Exodus and conquest actually happened I believe that the Bible is a historical book, and for the most part is written literally, not figuratively On this subject Mr Longman and I do agree He does have the opinion that these two major events did happen, and believes that there is enough evidence for it In chapter 3 the topic of divine violence is broached This is one of the heavy subjects, after all how can a loving God also be a violent God Mr Longman explains others views and how they have claimed that the God of the Old Testament and the New Testament don t line up They ve tried to change or simply ignore biblical evidence to the contrary This is another subject, were Mr Longman and I agree God is love God is just God is righteous And because of these things, as a last resort effort when humanity just can t obey, He will allow and enact violence.The final chapter of the book covers the subject of sexuality He tackles an extremely weighted topic with as much care and love as possible I mostly agree with Mr Longman here I loved his statement that the church needs to stop trying to impart their views on those of which who are not Christian One thing that he touched upon and that I wish he would have spoke about, however, was the fact that we are all sinners and no sin is bigger or worse then another We all need Christ s forgiveness, and without it we are destined to hell Still, even after we have become Christian, we don t suddenly become perfect We should have a yearning in our hearts to always be the best and to what God would want But we still constantly mess up, follow our own desires, and sin Because we have accepted Christ s forgiveness though and believe in God, we are going to Heaven, nothing can take that way Basically, I want it to be clear that if someone says that anyone who isn t straight can t be a Christianthey are completely and utterly wrong I will personally fight anyone who disagrees Mr Longman says this in a way, I just don t think it is clear enough.If you don t agree with anything I ve said here, that s alright We all have the right to our own opinion If you are interested in reading this book, here s the bottom line I, as a Christian enjoyed it, even though I didn t agree with all of it If you are an open minded Christian I have a feeling you will enjoy it If you are anything else, you quite possibly won t and this may not be the book for you To close, I would like to quote this from page 119, Our faith is not proved by reason, but it is not contrary to reason either Basically you can t prove someone s faith by using reason, but you can t disprove it either In the end we all get to choose what we believe Whether it be the religion itself, or the many different opinions in each religion It s our beliefs, and at the end of the day, no one can tell us if what we believe is true or not, right or wrong That s up for us to decide.

  4. Karl Dumas says:

    When I started Seminary about 20 years ago, one of the first courses I took was Old Testament Survey Other than the Bible, our basic text was an INTRO to OT that had Tremper Longman III s name on the cover I ve read some other things by Longman, and been impressed, so it was a no brainer for me to request this book when it became available through the bloggers program We have issues As communities, as nations, and on a global level we tend to live on the level of disagreement which can quickly deteriorate into something else Longman, in his latest book, Confronting Old Testament Controversies Pressing Questions about EVOLUTION, SEXUALITY, HISTORY and VIOLENCE Baker Books, 2019 teaches us, among so many other things, that we can disagree and remain friend It is refreshing to note the level of civility with which he presents his arguments maybe this book should be require reading for our American Congress Longman is a scholar, and his knowledge shines through again and again The Old Testament is hard reading for so many of us, and many people would prefer to relegate it to a pile of books that they think used to be relevant, but since the time of Christ, is out dated Nothing could be further from the truth Science has theories about evolution historians argue facts, dates and events LGBT, women s rights, and other groups clash with God s standards for sexuality and sexual behavior with its often unintended consequences and we wonder how a loving God could allow, or perhaps cause, such horrific events as the plagues, wars, and genocide that are part of the Old Testament Narrative If we disregard the Old Testament, we lose an important part of our understanding of the New Testament The Bible both Old and New Testaments is an account of God and His mission to reconcile people to himself In Longman s view, it is designed to point us to the One who saves, to point us to the creator of all, and call us into relationship with Him And this book is a forum to show how the Bible does exactly that One of the most positive things about this book is that we are not asked to blindly accept the author s word for it He cites others who agree with him, but also names and addresses the opposing viewpoints of the other side of the aisle He does so without acrimony, just plainly stating, without embellishment, why he thinks those arguments are wrong In several instances, he even points out where parts of the argument are right.But I also have an issue with a part of his style of writing I lost track of the number of times he mentions an issue, and then without addressing it, says that he will have to say on the matter later on I didn t keep a list to see if all those issues were indeed addressed, but for me it was confusing, and sometimes I had to go back one or paragraphs, or pages, to refresh my memory on what he was talking about This book is not an easy read, but it is well worth the read, especially if you are struggling with one or of the topics that Longman addresses and who doesn t struggle when what we re taught in our family, in school, or from friends or the media differs from what the Bible teaches I received a copy of this book as part of the publisher s bloggers program I was not required to write a positive review.

  5. Chris Wermeskerch says:

    My review of Confronting Old Testament Controversies by Tremeper Longman III.Goals of the Book It s no secret that the Christian Church struggles to handle the Old Testament in its worship, day to day life, or liturgy Brent Strawn has written an engaging and important book called The Old Testament is Dying , a fascinating look at the decline of the Old Testament in Christian circles In light of this claim, biblical scholar Tremper Longman III writes Confronting Old Testament Controversies with an eye toward helping Christians re examine their view of the Old Testament and reclaim it as part of their life and worship.One of the biggest hang ups for Christians today are some controveries that swirl around either the text of the Old Testament itself, or over some of the teachings related to the text The primary topics he deals with are creation and evolution historicity divine violence and sexuality What does this book have to offer the Church In part, it offers the Church part of her Bible back A lot of Christians avoid the Old Testament for basic reasons they can t find Jesus in the text, it s hard to follow, or its too foreign There are definitely Christians who shy away from the text because of bigger controversies I know, with my Old Testament emphasis in my Master s program, we talked about the problem of divine violence and how it related to Jesus all the time It came up in, oh, honestly, about six classes How I would have liked to have this information available when we were having the discussions That being said, I think this book is very helpful as Dr Longman is not afraid to tackle these subjects head on, despite how unpopular they are Lay people and pastors alike will be challenged by his points of view, but they will be challenged to think through these topics thoughtfully and slowly You don t have to agree with his points to learn a lot from this work How effectively does it meet those goals This book is the first that Dr Longman has written since retiring This means that he has decades of teaching and academic experience behind him This shows in the book, as decades of research, of thinking through the topic, and of careful academic vigor show in the text Thankfully, the text rarely becomes too technical to follow and if it is technical, you don t need an advanced theology degree to follow it, either , allowing it to reach a wider audience.So, if you re afraid to tackle the OT because of difficult questions, this is the book for you Even if the answers aren t satisfactory, the work done to arrive at them is and the book is helpful in framing questions better than you might on your own You can get info at Baker s website or order it on now

  6. Becca-Rae Weidel says:

    I title of this book had me instantly intrigued so I was fairly excited to dig into this one Unfortunately that excitement didn t last much past the first few paragraphs It became evident very early on that we did not hold the same theological or historical views I hold to a far literal interpretation of the Bible than the author portrayed in this book.It angered me that he upheld evolution as factual while throwing young earth creationists like myself out the door for not agreeing with his view on science First of all, young earth creationists do not throw science out the door Second of all, your theories in science do not provide the lens you need to look at the Bible In fact, it s the exact opposite You will find that if you re looking through the correct lens, there is actually overwhelming evidence in support of a young earth If the author s views were accurate, death and destruction would have existed before Adam and Eve were ever born which is clearly anti biblical The Bible and evolution are not compatible, and it s heretical to teach that they are.It also angered me to see him use the parables as a means to open up a wider genre based interpretation of the Bible and to discredit it s historicity He frequently opened the door to view events figuratively instead of literally For example, in the chapter on history he stated The message of the book of Job is not dependent on Job being a real person or the book describing actual events pg 90 He then goes on to treat the book as a lesson on wisdom and suffering with the viewpoint of a parable.There are several examples that I could get into I cannot bring myself to recommend this book to anyone I cannot get behind his viewpoints and I find it dangerous to do so I received a copy of this book from Baker Books Thoughts and opinions expressed are mine alone.

  7. Benjamin Liles says:

    I have never, in all my time reviewing books, found as good a book on this level of subject matter as well written, if not simply put together well When I say that, I mean it in the sense of Tremper Longman III s book Confronting Old Testament Controversies Within these two hundred ninety four pages he covers four special topics that the Old Testament encompasses Creation and Evolution, History, Violence and Sexuality To that end I say this Longman does a wonderful job covering all four subjects as best as possible What I want to start off saying is that as with every commentary on the Biblical narrative is that Longman does his best to show all sides of the box in regards to each and every point he makes I know I say box, but a coin has only two sides whereas a three dimensional box has six sides I mean to say that he has all angles pursued and logically and with objectivity looked at In any field, whether it is based on the Bible or on other subjects we all need to give an unbiased and objective view without allowing opinions to muddy the waters It is in that I honestly believe Longman has given his best in regards to treating the Old Testament the respect and reverence it deserves The biggest reason I say that is it is divinely ordained words of God He has given us these words through different men and personalities to show just how much He desires to reveal Himself to us In that sense God ordains all things to reveal a personal and just God who cares deeply for Creation mankind in particular I also add that this is one of those books you would want to have to help understand the Bible as well as to better understand who you are I received a complimentary copy of this book from Baker Books for a fair and objective review.

  8. Victoria says:

    The old testament has been a source of controversy for Christians throughout the centuries In his book Confronting Old Testament Controversies Tremper Longman III discusses and addresses pressing questions about four major topics.In the introduction Longman summarizes the big controversies and what positions he will be arguing which I will summarize here In the first 78 page chapter he presents a view of the old testament that does not promote but does not contradict evolution I don t think it would be unfair to say that the author s personal position that evolution is an indisputable scientific fact In the next chapter, Longman argues that when the Bible intends an event to be taken historically the event s theological importance relies on it being so The book s penultimate chapter deals with issues regarding God s violence in the old testament The author shows that attempts to move away from a God who causes physical harm to his enemies are misguided Finally, and perhaps the most controversial of all, is a chapter on sexuality This is especially relevant in our culture today that has moved away from a biblical view of human sexuality Longman presents the traditional and longstanding view of homosexuality in this section.I enjoy this book because of its controversial nature I m sure there are many who will agree with everything, but I suspect there is something for almost everyone to be challenged, if not out right offended by in this work It is good to get out of one s theological bubble and interact with differing views This book is both accessible and informative enough to engage a wide audience containing both the serious old testament student or the interested layman.I received a copy of this book in exchange for my fair and honest review.

  9. Veronica says:

    This book was incredibly fascinating There were some stances he took that I completely agreed with and some I wasn t sure what I thought He explained the different viewpoints of scholars from books they had written and what points he agreed and disagreed with I liked the respect he showed for the other scholars while he was pointing out flaws in their arguments He said he was friends with many of them and he agreed with them on most things, just not on everything He also pointed out that while these were interesting things to think about, salvation was the most important thing He also had a deep respect for the Bible as God s Word and treating it as such.I found the history and divine violence sections the most interesting as I love history and archaeology and found it fascinating that scholars recently have been questioning whether the exodus and conquest even happened He also made some great arguments about God s purpose for violence in the Old Testament and pointed out Paul Copan s comment that warfare was about sin, not about ethnicity He also admitted that he doesn t have it all worked out himself and still struggles with some parts of the violence aspect He looked at the implications for us today on what we believe about the different topics There were also some great indexes in the back of the book where you can look up topics by author, subject and Scripture I highly recommend this book if you ve ever struggled with questions on these topics as this book will make you think and hopefully come to some conclusions I received this book from Baker Books I was not compensated for this review All opinions are my own.

  10. Shannon (Mrsreadsbooks) says:

    This was a fairly interesting book and I expected it to be simply from the title and the synopsis The author definitely deals with some controversial and hot button topics throughout the book The main issues the author addresses are evolution, history, sexuality and violence This book contains a great deal of information, however I feel like this book is written towards scholars or theology graduates and not the broad audience that it was intended for I have a BA in Anthropology so I have heard pretty much every argument and discussion one can hear about the creation evolution debate and the author didn t really introduce any new ideas to me on this topic And as a Christian, all of the other topics I was already fairly familiar with because of my time in church and studying the Bible Some of his arguments throughout the book I didn t agree with and actually as I read through the reviews of this book from other readers, they seem to either really enjoy this book or not enjoy it at all I feel I am somewhere in the middle The author does present a lot of information on these hot topics, along with a great deal of Biblical scripture I just personally did not enjoy the writing style and actually it took me quite awhile to get through this book As I mentioned before, I think readers with either really enjoy this book or they won t enjoy it at all.Thank you to the publisher, Baker Books, for sending me a review copy of this book.

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